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#1 Ken White

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 04:45 PM

Yes, there's now a donate link in the menu bar thingy.

Why

As many know, I'm a poor old pensioner on a fixed income. Like your old grampa or the creepy guy who lives in the house with all the weeds in the front yard. This fixed income covers my expenses, INCLUDING the costs associated with TMU/TMOA (approx $150 a month), but doesn't leave me a huge amount of disposable income. My soulless EHow writing, which was providing more disposable income (at the cost of my eternal soul) has mostly dried up recently, and may stay dried up. And frankly, I'd rather be spending my time working on community-related stuff than writing how to use DiskPart to format a hard drive.

"But hey, Ken," you ask. "What do you need more disposable income for? Weed, wine and women?" No. I have that factored into my current budget. What I don't have factored in is...

Community Expansion and Development

I regularly see add-ons and other stuff that will improve the community - forums, radio, movie site. Some of it's free, and that just takes the time to get it going (and time I got). Some of the better stuff, though, is not free, and that's the problem with a fixed income - I don't have an extra $50 or $100 to spend on things not on the budget, no matter how useful they might be to the community. For instance:

  • TMU Competitions: We're in the earliest stages of putting together some kind of official TMU filmmaking competition. And I believe one of the keys to a successful comp is prizes (see the huge success of Harb's Passion Competition). I know Harb does his comp on a shoe-string, and beats the bushes for sponsors for the prizes, but I'd like to be able to offer cash/gift card prizes so the winners can choose what they want as a prize. No extra money, no money for that.
  • Community Add-Ons: Just as one example, when I was investigating the chat thing you see at the bottom on the screen, I was looking at CometChat, which has a lot more features (including file transfer, screen-sharing and...cough...video chat, among other things), but as cool as it is, the $50-$130 it would cost was outside my budget. I'd like to pump up the TMOA chatroom as well. And there are other add-ons and scripts that would make the community more...community-like.
  • The Movie Site: This is more long-term (because of the expense) but eventually I'd like to move it to a different platform. When we started 3 and a half years ago, Sharemixer was the best solution available, and well-worth what I spent on it. Since then, Sharemixer has ceased production (so no exciting new updates) and in any case, the features of video hosting platforms have increased exponentially in these past few years. To switch to a new platform would be expensive though - the cost of the script and modules (which could run from $50-$300), the cost of beefing up Server 2 for this kind of site or going to a dedicated server for all of our sites, which would be an additional $50-$100 a month more than we're paying now for hosting, and perhaps most important, having the money to hire somebody to do the conversion from Sharemixer to a new platform - which means moving the films and user data from the existing platform to a new platform, intact and ready to use. I DO NOT want to start the site from scratch on a new platform. I don't have the php/SQL skills to do it myself, but there's no doubt it could be done if we had somebody with those skills. No idea how much it would cost to hire somebody with the required skills, but I'm guessing $500+. Like I say, it's a long term goal, but we could start salting away some cash for that over time.

Bottom Line

At we've discussed expansion, more than a few community members have suggested donations as a way to fund it. So I'm making it available. If you've got some extra cash, and feel like this is a worthy cause, you can click the donate button and use PayPal to either subscribe (monthly fixed donation) or make a lump-sum donation. If you don't have the money, or don't feel it's a worthy cause, don't click the button. Either way, the site will continue - this isn't a "Help, save us!" call. If we get donations, I'll use the money to offset hosting costs and free up money for more community stuff. If not, I'll continue to scour the internet for free stuff. Either way, we roll on.

Thanks.

Ken

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#2 stvndysn

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 07:55 PM

just a few thoughts ken

as far as chat is concerned, i dont mind not having video chat.. got skype for that

personally i would rather see the donations go to the movies site, after all that is where the viewers go (apart from our dear forum). and yes money for comps.. but only good comps

i for one will be donating straight into your hand when i come over (as soon as my inheritence comes through).. which brings me to my next thought

Will donators of certain levels of donation be given certain privileges, honors etc

#3 Ken White

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 08:24 PM

just a few thoughts ken

as far as chat is concerned, i dont mind not having video chat.. got skype for that

personally i would rather see the donations go to the movies site, after all that is where the viewers go (apart from our dear forum). and yes money for comps.. but only good comps

i for one will be donating straight into your hand when i come over (as soon as my inheritence comes through).. which brings me to my next thought

Will donators of certain levels of donation be given certain privileges, honors etc

Yeah, the Comet Chat thing was just an example - not so much for the video chat, but for other features (ability to chat with any online member, the file transfer (useful for those who don't use Skype or need to throw a script or something to somebody else), etc.) It was just something that stuck in my mind when I was looking at forum chat solutions, and probably would have bought if I'd had the spare cash.

As for donors being given privileges and that kind of thing, we can certainly put something like that together - anything from tags in your postbit (the name thing next to a post), special user group, private forum (maybe for discussion of new features, that kind of thing), whatever. It can be universal (you donate, you get this) or if the donor wants it (some people prefer to make donations anonymously), or different stuff for different levels of donations - but it's definitely do-able.

One more thing - you better be hungry when you get here....no kiddie meal for you....

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#4 stvndysn

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 10:43 PM

One more thing - you better be hungry when you get here....no kiddie meal for you....


im expecting to have one of those burgers you so go on about.. cant wait.

back on topic

yes access to a privileged user group, and such would be welcomed

#5 Dulci

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 01:03 AM

I'm glad to see that we have the option to help support the site

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 11:40 AM

You know, I suggested this when the site first started and was told that it wasn't an option. Funny how things go, eh? Well, I will assist: Once more into the breech.... :chris:
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#7 Ken White

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 03:24 PM

You know, I suggested this when the site first started and was told that it wasn't an option. Funny how things go, eh? Well, I will assist: Once more into the breech.... :chris:

Oh, yes, guilty as charged of that. Mitigating circumstances are that, at that time, I was working and swimming in cash - also, I was thinking small. Little movie site, a forum if people wanted one, little community of TMO refugees.

Now I'm bobbing for dollar bills in the apple barrel, our community includes people using all kinds of software and the machinima train is rolling down the tracks. I have resisted, and will continue to resist, the suggestion that I "monetize" the site and turn it into an income source for me personally through display ads or Google AdSense or anything else - but since my financial situation has changed, and I can no longer spend money like a drunken sailor as I did, I can't make all the changes I'd like on my own.

So hey, let's all gather around for a chorus of "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" (the Hollies version, not the Neil Diamond version)(sorry, Dulci...we'll do "September Morn" next week....):gun_bandana:

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#8 themonk

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 03:42 PM

Yeah... will be happy to help out on new movie site software. Not that what we have now is bad, its just Im having problems with it playing movies on my computer (but Im thinking its the embedded players causing my problem). Stvn, be sure to announce exactly when you will be in Florida, when it comes to devouring over-sized cheese burgers... Im available! :11:


Im thinking a Radiothon kinda show, you know, we do things on the air for pledge donations, might be fun...

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 11:02 PM

Yeah... will be happy to help out on new movie site software. Not that what we have now is bad, its just Im having problems with it playing movies on my computer (but Im thinking its the embedded players causing my problem). Stvn, be sure to announce exactly when you will be in Florida, when it comes to devouring over-sized cheese burgers... Im available! :11:


Im thinking a Radiothon kinda show, you know, we do things on the air for pledge donations, might be fun...


as soon as i know i will be telling all concerned on skype and also announced on the forum.. and yes i am looking forward to the giant burger...

and a radiothon sounds fun count me in.. im sure you all want to listen to my drony voice lol

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 02:18 AM

I don't use Pay Pal - is there another way to donate? You know I've got money coming out of my A$$.

Cathy :001_rolleyes:

#11 Ken White

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 02:00 PM

as soon as i know i will be telling all concerned on skype and also announced on the forum.. and yes i am looking forward to the giant burger...

Just so we're clear, you'll have to sign the same waiver as Monk...

In his case, I don't want some lawsuit about how I recklessly disregarded his heart condition when I lured him into Cheeseburgers and More for a multi-pound cheeseburger with tragic consequences.

In your case, I don't want British tabloid reporters banging on my door, waving front page stories with a picture of a crying child and the headline "American killed my Dad with a giant cheeseburger."

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#12 Ken White

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 02:18 PM

I don't use Pay Pal - is there another way to donate? You know I've got money coming out of my A$$.

Ah, yes, I remember the days when I was crapping 20 and 50 dollar bills and just flushed them away without a thought...

Yeah, if you don't use PayPal, there are more old-fashioned ways of transferring money - hit me up in a PM.

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#13 riott007

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 06:50 PM

I plan on donating when I get my tax refund. (i'z a poor momma :( ) but when I do..I would like some sexual favors from some of the members here, few bottles of malt liquor, a peak at the secret forum...and it wouldn't hurt you to make me a God like moderator on the forums.

Yours truly,
Riott Q Porkenskin

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jeez i can't spell ok??


#14 thebiz

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 02:51 AM

The subscribe time seems to have changed from 12 months to 1 month and the link it takes me to is invalid.

EDIT: Neva Mind. All has been fixed at this time. Thanks.

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#15 Uber

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:19 AM

So it's money only? Blood and Semen are not acceptable currencies? :27:
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:01 PM

So it's money only? Blood and Semen are not acceptable currencies? :27:


If they were, you'd be sitting on a fortune...

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 10:07 PM

If they were, you'd be sitting on a fortune...


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